(Trivia Question) Where did Ketchup originate from?

[andyl8u]

Where did it came from. Who's idea was it?

[DOHC-LSR]

it came from Mr. Merriam Webster, he put Catsup through spell check and got Ketchup!:thumb_up: :big_grin:

[andyl8u]

Originally posted by DOHC-LS-Ray
it came from Mr. Merriam Webster, he put Catsup through spell check and got Ketchup!:thumb_up: :big_grin:

Close.......but you're WRONG!!!!!!

[DOHC-LSR]

does it have anything to do with dizziness?

[andyl8u]

Originally posted by DOHC-LS-Ray
does it have anything to do with dizziness?

No, but your answer is getting my dizzy. :bash:

[Daidae]

Originally posted by andyl8u
Where did it came from. Who's idea was it?

Cannot really pinpoint the origin of Ketchup.
Some say it orinated from China, and some say the British named it after a pickled fish importd from Malay called ketsiap.

[Dice]

Ketchup as I was told, orginated from China.

[cowboy]

Originally posted by Dice
Ketchup as I was told, orginated from China.

yup, it got smuggled along with gun powder, the compass, and a piece of paper

-ray, the one that was also on the boat being smuggled

[DOHC-LSR]

Originally posted by cowboy


yup, it got smuggled along with gun powder, the compass, and a piece of paper

-ray, the one that was also on the boat being smuggled

thats right! :thumb_up: That is how dynamite was red... from the Ketchup, paper and gun powder. THe compass was to guide the dynamite here from China :big_grin:

[andyl8u]

Originally posted by Daidae


Cannot really pinpoint the origin of Ketchup.
Some say it orinated from China.

Yup, you got it right but how did it became ketchup? How come the person/country use tomato for ketchup?

[cowboy]

Originally posted by andyl8u
Yup, you got it right but how did it became ketchup? How come the person/country use tomato for ketchup?

originally, the tomato was laying on the floor. and someone in china rolled over it with a wheelbarrow and then voila, ketchup.

-ray, adding a 4th....

follow-up trivia/riddle (within a trivia) :rofl:

question: If you understand what i was getting at, there is a 5th item to this list. what is it?

[andyl8u]

Originally posted by cowboy
originally, the tomato was laying on the floor. and someone in china rolled over it with a wheelbarrow and then voila, ketchup.

-ray, adding a 4th....

follow-up trivia/riddle (within a trivia) :rofl:

question: If you understand what i was getting at, there is a 5th item to this list. what is it?

You're not taking the question seriously ray. What happen to the google answers? Is your answer from google? Doesn't seem like it.

[affro]

Is it REALLY ketchup...you sure..huh...huh...whores!:happy:

[cowboy]

Originally posted by andyl8u
You're not taking the question seriously ray. What happen to the google answers? Is your answer from google? Doesn't seem like it.

no i am not taking the question seriously :thumb_up:

and it doesn't seem like i am searching google because i do not normally search on google for trivia questions...and when i do: i will state "after some research" -or- "quote" to give credit where credit is due

other than that, i pull all answers from my ass and try to give educated guesseseseeseseses........

-ray, giving hypotheses

[DOHC-LSR]

after 1 minute of research

the smooth tomato sauce originated from a spicy pickled-fish condiment popular in 17th-century China known as ke-tsiap or kecap and was introduced to other parts of the world by British seamen.


so is it right or what... its a repeat of exactly what Dave said... so if its right the trophy goes to him
:thumb_up:

[DOHC-LSR]

okay, after 2 more mintes… Ketchup, first spelled Catsup originated in Malay since Catsup's definition is a "Malay kechap spiced fish sauce" or "a seasoned tomato puree" Thus the Origin is from the peninsula of Malay. That’s my final answer.:thumb_up:

[andyl8u]

In the 1600s Dutch and British seamen brought back a salty pickled fish sauce called 'ketsiap' from China. In this version, it was more related to soy or oyster sauce than the sweet, vinegary substance we call ketchup today. Variations in both the name and the ingredients quickly developed. British alternatives included mushrooms (the favorite), anchovies, oysters, and walnuts. In 1690 the word 'catchup' appeared in print in reference to this sauce, and in 1711 'ketchup'.


The first ketchup recipe was printed in 1727 in Elizabeth Smith's The Compleat Housewife, and called for anchovies, shallots, vinegar, white wine, sweet spices (cloves, ginger, mace, nutmeg), pepper, and lemon peel. Eighty-five years later the first tomato ketchup recipe was published in Nova Scotia by American ex-pat James Mease, which he often refers to as 'love apple' ketchup-he attempts to give it more cachet by stating that this variation is influenced by French cooking, although there is no proof of it.


Recipes continued to appear periodically, featuring mushrooms in Britain and tomatoes in the United States. A New England Farmer offered it for sale in 1830 in bottles, and priced from 33 to 50 cents. In 1837, Americans selling ketchup in Britain were encouraged to rename it 'tomato chutney' in order to draw attention to the differences between their product and the mushroom ketchup popular in Britain. In addition to the difference in ingredients, the British version also differed in texture, being nearly transparent and very thin in consistency.


Ketchup was sold nationwide in the US by 1837 thanks to the hard work of Jonas Yerkes, who sold the product in quart and pint bottles. He used the refuse of tomato canning-skins, cores, green tomatoes, and lots of sugar and vinegar. Lots of other small companies followed suit-by 1900 there were 100 manufacturers of ketchup. The big success came in 1872 when HJ Heinz added ketchup to his line of pickled products and introduced it at the Philadelphia fair. The Heinz formula has not changed since, and has become the standard by which other ketchups are rated.


That's just a brief history of ketup so Dave was half right and Ray C. got most of them right. Basicly the english try to copy the chinese sauce HO YAO (oyster sauce) and they couldn't make it and then made other kind of sauce instead and came up with the ketchup that we have today.

The reason why they decided to use tomato is not because it taste better, it's because during the depression in US, tomato was cheap. So more people bought the tomato flavor instead of mushroom ketchup and other kind of ketchup. I heard that on the history channel. :big_grin: