FINAL CALL for vegas participants (everyone must read)...

[cowboy]

Mandatory MEETING @ 1PM, The Great Entertainer on Bryant St, SF, SATURDAY, DEC. 21, 2002

FOR THOSE WHO DO NOT THINK WE SHOULD GO TO VEGAS, SAY SOMETHING NOW (before the 25th) OR YOU WILL HAVE TO PAY YOUR SHARE OF EXPENSES!


below is the updated list of attendees for New Years celebration 2003 in Vegas. as you can see, there are 9 people with a positive yes on this trip. that means we only need 2 sedans. if you guys would like vans, let's find 5 more people to fill up the second van.

Attending:


1) Raymond Chi Wai Wong
2) Daniel Ming Wong
3) Raymond Ming Fei Cheung
4) Anthony Chi Yuen Hau
5) Sherman Michael Duong
6) Stefanie Chu
7) James "Affropoof" Cheung
8) Ricky Wai Kit Huey
9) Tracey Nicole Young

ATTN SHERMAN & DANIEL

SHERMAN - ON OCTOBER 25TH, MAKE A RESERVATION FOR A SUITE FROM ROD

DANIEL - ON OCTOBER 25TH, MAKE RESERVATION(S) FOR THE NUMBER OF VEHICLES REQUIRED

RICKY - WILL YOU BE JOINING US FOR THE ROAD TRIP?

-ray

[copymaster003]

ttt

[copymaster003]

Dates--> December 29th to January 2nd

Justifications: we can leave Dec. 29th, which is sunday, anytime in the afternoon or morning so that we can party when we get there. Leaving the 2nd, which is a Thursday, is good so that we can be more alert and sober up from the day before from partying. In addition, traffic will be less jammed.

Biggest thing is to see if everyone can get those days off--Arthur, Ray, Duy, Steve, Lan, Sandon......(jeff and i are flexible)
So can everyone find out by this MONDAY???? Talk to your boss, put in your requests, sleep w/ your manager...whatever you need to do!!! We need to put deadlines on ourselves or this whole thing will keep laggin and laggin'.

My hugest concern is the hotel room. We need to find a place like NOW. Please if everyone can search online at any website out there:

(examples:)
lowestfare.com
hotels.com
travelocity.com
expedia.com

Lastly, any recommendations on where to rent a car? Enterprise? (can jeff get a student discount there?)

Can anyone forward this to Ko?

Stef


This is a forward of the email that Stef. has sent to all her friends. It looks like we will be driving 2 vehicles down to Las Vegas. Sherman needs to call ROD, for all the corresponding info. is under your name, i.e. previous reservation info., credit card info., gayness factor info. etc etc.,

SHERM call for the ROOM NOW! Just find out what he can do and what is avaliable! He will probably need to call you back for that is his Cell Phone number.

[copymaster003]

As of 11/07/2002, 2-vans have been reserved at Dolloar Rent-A-Car (866) 434-2226 (Corporate Reservation #: (800) 365-5271) under the UCSF corporate account for:
pickup:
Monday 12/30/2002 8a.m. or later
return:
Tuesday 01/02/2003 8a.m.

RATES:

Instead of $636/week, the rate is $300 even. Last time we upgraded to the Grand Caravan Sport for $5.00 extra a day...

So the costs last time was:
$300 for the rental
$35.00 for the upgrade, 7-days x $5.00
$18.98 for tax
Total: 353.98

Please note that the above price was for 7-days, this time we will be renting the van for less days, so the costs should be less than the above stated price

Confirmation No's:
Van #1: Z0842530
Van #2: Z0842569
2003 Confirmation No's: Confirmation No's: RATES: RATES: As of 11/07/2002 As of 11/07/2002

[cowboy]

on monday november 11, 2002.....i will be booking regular rates at a hotel unless you guys (Sherm, Daniel, Rick) will be calling rod.

if someone doesn't do anything, we will have to pay regular price for some fucked up rooms. remember, the longer you take, more less likely it's gonna be to get a cool room.

THAT IS ALL

-ray, the guy that doesn't understand how sherm was supposed to get rates, then daniel, then sherm, then daniel, then sherm and then daniel.

[cowboy]

either call me or reply about the status on the hotels

-ray, the one that hopes he sees this

[fourthighs]

As Ray said, we should be looking for rooms NOW!! I tried to call Rob and the line was disconnnected. FYI there are roundtrip vacation packages with Hotel for around $240 per person at Bally's, cheaper if you pick a cheaper hotel, so if some of you want to do that...some peps could fly down (two probably) and ther rest drive down and split the room minus the plane ticket FAIR price....just a thought.

[fourthighs]

I did not get a chance to call Bally's yet, I'll try today, and did you try to look for packages online yet??? I will try to do that too...but don't count on me doing that until later on this afternoon. I'm at work right now!! and yes I know I shouldn't even be on right now!

[Unregistered]

ttt, EVERYONE must READ this!

[cowboy]

we are pretty fucked. Rod's cell phone has been disconnected and the only way to contact him is to call bally's directly and ask for him. after nagging sherm 90749741 times, he finally called to ask but rod wasn't in yesterday, nov 11. so, all we know is that he still works there because the receptionist knew who he was. what we don't know is his scedule. sherm asked for a quick quote just to see what we would have to settle with if we had no other way to get the reservations and what he found is that a regular room in vegas for that date is around $350. THANKS, GUYS!

so, sherm will try again today and continue until he is reached.

i hope this doesn't happen again.

-ray, the one that is very dissappointed in team helluvafast because he can't understand why people can't do a simple task such as calling someone

[DOHC-LSR]

HOTELS.COM (http://www.hotels.com/process_search.jsp;jsessionid=TGUCGM5L4BJW2CQCAJAC BHQKAIBD0H20?paging=1&searchID=A2240333-5C57-DB9F-1792-550BD3907499&inout=&destination=4fded4ff-af4a-41b7-976b-bd5bd436f135%7CB68F06C3-77A8-49F1-9BA2-C9E779FDAD9D%7CLas+Vegas%2C+NV%2C+USA%7C1&usertypedcity=&CIMonth=12&CIDay=29&CIYear=2002&COMonth=1&CODay=2&COYear=2003&numrooms=2&numadults=4&numchildren=0)

Looks like the rooms for the 29th - 2nd will cost about $1,000. Is this getting canceled? I highly doubt Rod can do anything for us... I think he'd be more interested in helping out ballers who wants a suite at last minute without reservations. Keep in mind Rod is only interested in making money and not really gonna try to help us out because he is NOT our friend.

I would forget about Rod altogether...

[cowboy]

RAY, DO NOT PUT THIS UNDER THE REGULAR VEGAS ONE POST....it looses its importance......

Someone call Rod at bally's las vegas....to find the number go to www.ballys.com and click las vegas....the number is in huge gold-colored block numerials on the bottom left corner

i do want to keep trying until it is for sure that we will be spending a grand to rent hotel rooms. as of daniel and his two vans, i think you have to cancel them or save them to do some cardboard mayhem on new years day.

i, ray wong, will not call because i'm not sure how to talk the "lingo".....so someone with the sense, please call asap because there shouldn't be anymore lagging.

SOMEONE CALL ROD!

if no one wants to, then daniel, cancel the vans.

-ray, the one that can't believe it takes 2 months to call someone

[fourthighs]

TO correct RAY WRONG! the name is ROB, NOT ROD!!!!! I called and they say there is no ROB there!!! Maybe they lied, but you guys can try again!!! Don't say I didn't try!!! I did twice now!!! Once on his cell and again at Bally's!!!

[DOHC-LSR]

I already said what I said about Rod/Rob, so can we please stop using him as a pivotal point in making decisions?

[DOHC-LSR]

So whats the scoop on the air fare with hotel for $250? Rick? (As you can see I'm totally abandoning the Hotel Rob idea becuz I think I'm smart) Are you planning to fly down there? Wasn't sure what your plans are... This thread will be merged with the original Vegas Trip thread soon. It doesn't need its own thread and Ray... if it important, it'll move to the top. Not have a empty thread with 0 replies.

Who is planning to fly down there? And are those air fare + hotel deals still at that price?

[ShermStyle]

Today at work I called Bally's again. This time the guy assured me there is no Rod working there. Ricky, his name is Rod because the cell # he gave me said "Rod".

[DOHC-LSR]

maybe he wrote the b backwards to look like d bd bd, can be confusing.... PUT... since its settle that this imaginary character no longer works at Bally's probably because he got caught and is now in jail... whats the next step?

[cowboy]

to begin, i believe his name is ROD, after being corrected so many times when calling him RON

Originally posted by DOHC-LS-Ray
I already said what I said about Rod/Rob, so can we please stop using him as a pivotal point in making decisions?

as for the whole process of calling rod/rob/ron/eddie, it was a shot to get cheaper hotel prices. remember, it was your (alone) thought to lead you (alone) to believe that we should not bother calling. that would be your opinion and something that no one else had agreed on. so how could your opinion become the voice of the whole team?

the main reason why i pushed people to call rod, was obviously to get cheaper rates. if we totally abandon the idea, then people will start saying "what if...." "could of..." "we should of..." after we pay $83.50 per person or more for a dinky ass hotel room. by trying to put this trip together, i believe it is to everyone's advantage to get the cheapest rates, so why not go for it? what's the difference between calling and not? we attempted to ask rod and that was it. nothing was lost. so why were you so obstinate into what everyone should feel or do? all i can say is that now that we have tried, we can all say we took a shot at it, and the next step is to find an alternative.

remember, rod gave us a cell phone for a reason. to call him and ask for anything in the future was his decision if he believe it was a one time thing, he wouldn't have offered a number to call at all. and if everyone didn't want to even try calling him, then why would daniel keep asking me to tell someone to call rod? why did rick and sherm call at all? it was an attempt to get cheaper rates and was in everyone interest to do so.


with that out of the way, if everyone still wants to go, how can we keep this economical? because paying $1000+ for rooms isn't too fun. let's assume 14 people will be attending, so even if tracy and rick will be getting individual packages with rooms for each package, that only gives us 2 rooms. so, is anyone else flying there? daniel, do you have anymore benefits to hotels in vegas? i will call other hotels later today, nov 13, to compare prices.

i will be calling:
Treasure Island
Mirage
MGM
Luxor
Rio
NY, NY

if you guys can think of any other places, please help call. *now don't everyone volunteer at once*

also, ricky, are you flying there are riding with us?

-ray, the guy with 8 cents

[DOHC-LSR]

I understand your comment and this is why you should not be creating NEW threads for a topic that ALREADY exists. You would have seen that I said to abandon Eddie's Hotel Hook-up route after its already established and tried and known that he doesn't work there and that any chances of him getting us anything is slim to none. But since it was in a seperate thread you didn't see it.

So I was pushing to stop depending on him and moving onto other avenues of getting rooms before it gets even later.

[cowboy]

also, i will be looking for 3 rooms

do we need more or less?

-ray

[DOHC-LSR]

Depends who you are getting rooms for? I think the HelluvaFast group should get rooms together as we have absolutely no word on what confirmed friends Danny is bringing. So I think they should take care of themselves. Because its hard enough to get our own shit together and they seem just as organized as us... and then thats double plus un-good if we still have to agree on shit with people we ca't get in touch with...

[DOHC-LSR]

Unless they agree to pay whatever we get, even if they decide to cancel at the last minute.... like what our agreement here is...

[cowboy]

Originally posted by DOHC-LS-Ray
I understand your comment and this is why you should not be creating NEW threads for a topic that ALREADY exists. You would have seen that I said to abandon Eddie's Hotel Hook-up route after its already established and tried and known that he doesn't work there and that any chances of him getting us anything is slim to none. But since it was in a seperate thread you didn't see it.

So I was pushing to stop depending on him and moving onto other avenues of getting rooms before it gets even later.

does that mean you were stating the obvious?

in that case, it is ok

-ray, the one that gave ray c the "ok"

[DOHC-LSR]

yes... but it seemed like people were still hindering on the idea that Rod was gonna get us killer hook up rooms. I took the disconnected cell as a hint of what Eddie does already...

If you know certain people have a phone number you gave them, and you kill that phone... why did you not keep the number? Why did you struggle so hard to keep your old cell number when getting a new phone Ray?

[cowboy]

i guess i will not be checking this periodically i leave it to other members to call daniel and ask:

"does stef and them need us to get hotel rooms for them?"

if yes, also ask

"how many people need rooms?" comment that "if there are a total of 14 people going, there will be 3 rooms" and then ask "does stef or any of her friends know of people that work in reservations area of any major hotel?"

i tried calling (at 10:30am) and he isn't picking up.

otherwise, but thursday 2:40pm, we will be making the reservations if the price is right

-ray, the one that feels like he's doing too much and is thinking about retiring after this vacation

[DOHC-LSR]

you can't retire! you are the one that get stuff done on time and early... the rest of us only waits for you to get confirmations then we get to work on find something better!

Then we await your bitching....

[cowboy]

daniel called me back....he said:

"Reow, meow, yea.... stef already got hotels. they got them at the hilton from www.hotels.com"

we can either go to the hilton, or find another place cheaper at the website.

so, with that said....

RICKY, ARE YOU COMING WITH US OR FLYING WITH TRACY?

i saw you on this board after i posted the question and you haven't replied. we need to know before we make the reservations

-ray, the one waiting for rick's decision

[cowboy]

rates for 1 regular (called deluxe) room:

Flamingo
required 3 night stay.
Dec 30 - $180
Dec 31 - $180
Jan 01 - $180
with AAA discount each night will be $162

Luxor
required 3 night stay.
Dec 30 - $249
Dec 31 - $249
Jan 01 - $89
didn't offer AAA discount

MGM Grand
allowed 2 nights
Dec 31 - $219.95
Jan 01 - $219.95
didn't offer AAA discount

Treasure Island
allowed 2 nights
Dec 31 - $299
Jan 01 - $299
AAA discount at 10%

Paris
required 3 night stay
Dec 30 - $459
Dec 31 - $459
Jan 01 - $162

New York, NY
required 3 night stay
Dec 30 - $209
Dec 31 - $209
Jan 01 - $209

every hotel said pricing is determined by demand so these prices are for Nov 13, 2002 12:00p.m.

THIS IS WHAT I WANT EACH ONE OF YOU GUYS TO DO

each person is assigned to a website to check rates. the prices above are there for comparison, so we know how much we will be saving. everyone is contributing to this vacation.

Ray C - www.cheaprooms.com

Andy - www.hotelsforcheap.com

Sherman - www.orbitz.com

Daniel - www.expedia.com

Ricky - www.4hotelrates.com

James - www.hotels.com

do them asap, actually check them before the end of today. we need 2 rooms, but also get a quote for 4 rooms (if discount are applicable) each room will need 2 beds.

-ray, the one that wants shit done, NOW!

[DOHC-LSR]

about $70 a night at Comfort Inn Las Vegas, New Mexico. So $210 for the 3 nights, I didn't ask about discounts because I felt that would be a waste of time. Like this isn't right now.

Let me get some info on the Vegas in Nevada to in case anyone wants to know.

[fourthighs]

Okay I went to that website to check out the prices and here they are:

MGM
Dec. 30th $239.00
Dec. 31st $329.95

Same with Treasure Island

The rest compared to Ray's NO AVAILABILITY!!!!

[fourthighs]

Maybe we should just stay at a motel/Travelodge/Inn/Lodge/whatever. What do you guys think???

[DOHC-LSR]

Various info Rate from CheapRoom.com HERE LINKY CLICK ME (http://www.charlieseafood.com/helluvafast/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=166)

Room Availability & Pricing
for Dec 30 - Jan 01, 2 Night(s) 2 Adult(s) per Room << Select different Lodging

===========================

FLAMINGO LAS VEGAS

$ 225.00 (USD)

===========================
LUXOR

$ 249 - 269

===========================
PARIS

$ 459.00 (USD)

==========================

BALLY'S

$ 279.00 (USD)

==========================

Those Hoe-tels not listed were not available through CheapRooms

[cowboy]

my opinion:

as of now it looks like we can get moderatly priced rooms the no-name hotels and pay some raping prices for the major hotels. i'm not sure how far flamingo is from the strip, but if the lady wasn't lying to me, it looks like a pretty good price. so the question is:

do we stay 2 nights or 3 nights? because the majority of hotels only offer reservations for 3 nights do we do that or stick with the ones that allow 2 nights?

and again, Rick, will you be joining us on the road trip, or flying with Tracy?

everyone must answer these questions because the longer you guys take, the more ass raping the price will be

-ray, the one that thinks rick is purposely ignoring me after i asked 4 times

[DOHC-LSR]

I don't give a fawk where we stay... as long as I can turn on the TV in the room next door while its occupants are trying to sleep, I'm happy.

[cowboy]

as of nov 13, 7:30pm this is what he have/reserved:

these are courtesy holds. i haven't given them my credit card yet.
#1 reservation
4 rooms for NY NY for December 30, 31 January 1

Room#----Confirmation#-----------Under (name)-----------Price/night

---1-----------BFNZD-----------Raymond Wong----------$209.99
---2-----------3HNZD-----------Daniel Wong-------------$209.99
---3-----------XHNZD-----------Raymond Cheung--------$209.99
---4-----------C4NZD-----------Anthony Hau-------------$209.99

I have until the 23rd to agree or remove the hold

___________________
#2 reservation
4 rooms for MGM for December 29, 30, 31, January 1

Room#----Confirmation#-----------Under (name)-----------Price/night

---1-----------KG2513----------Raymond Wong----------$219.99
---2-----------KG2514----------Daniel Wong-------------$219.99
---3-----------KG2515----------Raymond Cheung--------$219.99
---4-----------KG2516----------Anthony Hau-------------$219.99

I have until the 28th to agree or remove the hold

IMPORTANT NEWS:
DANIEL CALLED ROD

he still exist and will be working from 5:30pm until 1am on November 14. he will call rod during those times and will see what he can do.

thanks team helluvafast for lagging. because i called MGM and they said if we booked earlier, we could have gotten a suite for $40 more per night. that means we could have cut down reservations in half and just get 2 rooms. but because of you guy's faggot ass lagging, all suites are booked....

i hope that's a lesson to you that lagging for 3 months is bad, shit, lagging is bad in general. especially if Ray C, Daniel, Sherm, Andy, James, or Rick will be coordinating the next event.

people from helluvafast and their guest(s) who are going:
Raymond Wong +1
Raymond Chueng
Daniel Wong +10
Anthony Hau
James Cheung
Sherman Duong

-ray, the guy relieving himself from that position of coordinating these things

[DOHC-LSR]

I don't see why we would consider to get 4 nights if we can get 3 at NY NY. Can someone please explain this to me?

[DOHC-LSR]

Cuz I think things cost enough as it is.

[cowboy]

2 reasons...

1) daniel said that stef and friends are going to be driving down on sunday, so going together would be pretty cool

2) if we will be going for 3 nights, we will be driving monday morning, so one more day would also add to the coolness

but it's totally up to team helluvafast, for what they want to do,

SO, GIVE YOUR 2 CENTS BEFORE 5:30PM!!!

because daniel will be calling rod at that time. you must post which one you rather want do, #1, or #2 (so team helluvafast knows) and call daniel because he doesn't check the board daily

-ray, the guy that sayZ

[copymaster003]

as of 7:30 pm Thursday Nov. 14 2002, I have spoke to ROD. He can get us rooms at Bally's for:

12/29 = $120
12/30 = $279
12/31 = $279
1/03 = $120

(per night, per room)

a Total = $798.00

We need to have at least room reservations before ROD can upgrade our room to a suite, but this is pending for he needs to check the avaliability of the suites. He will be calling me back either tonight or tommorrow to let me know the status. And remember, he will be wanting his special commission that suddenly disappears into is black suit.

This is the UPDATE!!!!! Will update as more as more late breaking news arises!

(And whoever said they called Bally's and was sure that ROD no longer works there should be FLAMED by the ENTIRE TEAM, because:

1) He still works at Bally's
2) His cell phone number is still the same!!!!!!!!

Who is the LIAR LIAR pants on FIRE here?

[fourthighs]

I did not lie! Althought I should have said exactly what the message said, "The phone number you dial is either disconnected or no longer in service, please check your number again" That's what it said!!!

[fourthighs]

Damn it, so what days should I take off???? I only took off from the 12/30 through 1/2/03....

[cowboy]

first of all, you must know if you will be going, then you should take the days off...

till this day, we still don't know if you will be attending the road trip/flying with tracy/or not going.

you have posted on this board more than 4 times since i first asked:

RICK, ARE YOU GOING WITH US TO VEGAS?

and i feel that you are purposely ignoring the question. so far, you and tracy have been excluded from the seating arrangments because you have not gotten back to us.

-ray, the one that asked in huge bold letters 4 times

[fourthighs]

Me and Tracey are going with you guys on the roadtrip/hotel. Plane tickets are too expensive and yes I did avoid the question, because I did not know if I was going to go on the plane or not....but now I am sure we are going with you guys. If it's not too late. Let me know muah ha ha ha!!

[cowboy]

WHY NOT JUST TELL US THE SITUATION THEN TO AVOID IT??? but it is ok now....

-ray, the one that has found peace

[copymaster003]

Seating Arrangements!

Now that Ricky, Tracey, and Jennie has confirmed their attendance, I believe we may have a transportation seating arrangement issue.

Here are the seating arrangements as follows:

Stefanie's Van:

Seat # (as follows)
1 Stefanie
2 Lan
3 Jeff (he will the one renting the VAN)
4 Arthur
5 Ray
6 Ko
7 Hoesa

Friend Steve will be flying from LA to meet them
Sandon = ? maybe
Tiffany = ? maybe

Team Helluvafast Van:

Seat # (as follows)
1 Daniel (I will renting our Van)
2 Ray W.
3 Ray C.
4 Andy
5 Shermie
6 James
7 Jennie

(In all fairness, Jennie confirmed her attendance before Ricky and Tracey, so the last seat was assigned to her)

So far this is what I have. If Sandon goes, he will be driving his own 4-runner, so if he goes, then will can re-arrange the seating to fit everyone on this list including Ricky and Tracey. BUT as of now, I have not included Sandon in any of our plans. If he goes, he is more than welcomed and Ricky and Tracey will then have rides, but as of now..... Does anyone have any suggestions? I want everyone to go becuase this is NEW YEARS so:

QUESTION #1
How can we accomodate Ricky and Tracey?

Ray Wong and I have suggested getting another vehicle to accomodate Ricky and Tracey and to free up some space in each Van so instead of 7 people there will be 6 people in each van thus making the ride more comfortable.

As for the Hotel, ROD has not gotten back to me. I called yesterday Monday 11/18 and he was off, but will be in today so I will call back today to find out.

[cowboy]

Don't forget!!!

another reason for getting another van is that there won't be enough room for luggage. remember how packed it was with 6 people's worth of luggage? now if we stick 7 people into a van and add that extra person's lugage, that would be impossible (well, close to impossible)

remember it's a suggestion....we have to vote inorder for it to pass.

if sandan and tiffany goes, i think it can be reasonable to rent another van. therefore, if we include rick and tracey there will be a total of

18 people

divided by 3 vans, we can comfortably seat 6/van plus plenty of luggage. you can do the math yourself...each van is about $350 for the whole week

-ray, the one with another 2 cents

[cowboy]

SUPER DUPER UPDATE ON VEGAS

it has been decided, nov 19, 9:30pm, that we should get 3 vans. that is final, so daniel should be renting the third van soon.

so far, i haven't been getting any complaints on dividing up the cost evenly, but i think gas expenses can be a problem. some vans may get 1 more MPG, depending on how much the driver slams on the gas pedel. so this is what we can do:

Alternative #1
we can all have the gas go into 1 huge total and later divided by 18 because people. the reason is because people might be switching seats from van to van. the benefit is that it will be easy to calculate without any problems. the con is that this calculation will be rounded up to the nearest dollar, so the other 17 people may not find it fair for the person come out so much ahead (but remember, this individual will be working pretty hard to run back and forth from 3 vans and charging it to their credit card)

Alternative #2
we will select 3 groups of 6 (don't matter who is assigned to what group because it will just be used for gas purposes) each group will nominate a leader which will charge gasoline for each (1) van. at the end of the trip, the 6 will be reimbursing the 1 credit card. the benefit is that there won't be too much rounding up, so no one will feel cheated. the con is that we need to find 3 leaders, and will have to have a huge group meeting with stef's friends to first, let them know about the idea and second, to have them agree and see if any of them will volunteer.

UPDATE ON RICK/TRACEY SITUATION

because we will be getting 3 vans, we can all comfortably seat everyone at 6/van, so everything is OK. rick and tracey both have seats in the wonderful caravans!

-ray, the one with the super duper update

[DOHC-LSR]

Alternate #1 is not possible to perform with 1 credit card because you cannot pump gas 3 times for 3 vans with the same credit UNLESS you use 1 pump and 1 single CONTINUOUS purchase. Which means the vans would have to be filled 1 at a time on a continuous purchase (more time to take a piss).

[DOHC-LSR]

or you might be able to do it if you talk to the attendant... and depending on how intelligent they are... they may be able to help you pump 3 times on 1 card.

[cowboy]

actually, it just occured to me that we can't just use 1 credit card....i believe the majority of credit cards nowadays have limitations on gas purchases to protect from fraud. such as only "X" amount of charges/day, so to elimate any future problems we might incur on the trip, let's just go for choice 2....

good eye, ray c.

-ray, the one that contributed a little bit more information to ray c's thought

[fourthighs]

So how many nights are we staying at Vegas???? Are you going to be there 29th through 2nd???? Meaning we are going to stay there 4 nights??? Let me know...

[cowboy]

day - Dec/29 - Drive to vegas
nite - Dec/29 - Sleep in vegas
day - Dec/30 - Stay in vegas
nite - Dec/30 - Sleep in vegas
day - Dec/31 - Stay in Vegas
nite - Dec/31 - Party in vegas
day - Jan/01 - Recover in vegas
nite - Jan/01 - Sleep in Vegas
day - Jan/02 - Drive to SF

it is suggested that you be back in SF from boarding on the 28th

-ray, the guy with the schedule

[DOHC-LSR]

even though the charges may be seperated by credit cards. To keep everything fair I think everyone should pay the SAME for ALL gas charges. Unless some group members decide to go on a adventure alone using up extra gas.. The nthey should volunteer to take up the round up cost and then some.

[fourthighs]

I already told my co-worker, we are coming back on the 28th now. Which is cool. Cut cost for me too.

[cowboy]

Originally posted by DOHC-LS-Ray
even though the charges may be seperated by credit cards. To keep everything fair I think everyone should pay the SAME for ALL gas charges. Unless some group members decide to go on a adventure alone using up extra gas.. The nthey should volunteer to take up the round up cost and then some.

that sounds cool, but check out this senerio

card 1 totaled - $198.76
card 2 totaled - $195.92
card 3 totaled - $201.86

grand total - $596.54

divided by 18 people - $33.14 each

everyone pay $34.00 (rounded up)

$34.00 X 18 = $612.00

$612.00 > $596.54, so there's a difference of $15.46

one way is to divide it up by the people who used their credit cards, but is everyone ok with the idea of the extra $15.46?

we need some thoughts on what will happen

-ray, the guy with a senerio

[DOHC-LSR]

how bout this one

card 1 totaled - $238.76
card 2 totaled - $175.92
card 3 totaled - $201.86

and seating was NOT ALWAYS THE SAME IN THE VANS or between vans. Than what?

[cowboy]

"Then What?"

i don't understand the question

-ray, the confused one

[DOHC-LSR]

I'm saying everyone pays for the exact same amount for gas unless they went on some adventure without all 3 vans or not all participated. In my scenario the ppl with a van that ate more gas has to pay more.

So just divide up the gas equally unless unequal events take place.

[cowboy]

sounds like we have a predicament. as of now, i can't think of a solution that will be fair. i will log this into a list of problems that will be brought for a group meeting and see what other input we can get.

-ray, the guy that's doing something extremely gay

[DOHC-LSR]

pre dick cute mints? who's got that?

[cowboy]

TTT

[cowboy]

in regards to this sunday's meeting of team helluvafast and team stef, these are the thoughts/questions/idea(r)s that will be brought up

1) our gas problem (someone keeps farting and we don't know who)

2) trying to find 1 more person to fill up the 3rd van

3) a list of items that we will get from costco such as:
a) alcohol
b) cup noodles
c) snacks
d) water
e) soda(r)
f) cups

as of the costco items, if we all decide and agree to the same things, we can nominate someone to buy everything, and on our second meeting, we will reimburse that person in cash rounded up to the nearest dollar. reimbursement will be done before the trip because that person would like cash back before the trip

please add to this list

-ray, the one with a list

[andyl8u]

I guess I could take care of the gas problem. Don't ask me how PUT I will do it.

[cowboy]

It has been decided that the Mandatory Vegas Meet #1 will be held at

GE (The Great Entertainer)
Sunday, December 8th
@ 6p.m.

anymore ideas that we will need to bring up? it's your last chance

be there or be square

-ray, the one that's not a square

[cowboy]

just wanted people to know that this post gave this topic the 300th view

-ray, the one that set a record

[cowboy]

THERE WILL BE NO MEETING ON DEC, 8 BECAUSE DANIEL FUCKED UP

-ray, the one that said "thanks, daniel"

[andyl8u]

What happen guy?

[cowboy]

When will the 1st out of 2 meets be held?

or is there going to be one?

someone post a date, now

-ray, the one that needs a date

[fourthighs]

I suggest at Crystal's 1 year old party! What about you guys???

[DOHC-LSR]

Originally posted by fourthighs
I suggest at Crystal's 1 year old party! What about you guys???

I don't think theres enough time to do all that at Crystals birthday party. I suggest someone come up with another time. Since some how Danny sabotaged the last meeting date... I volunteer Danny to come up with a meeting time & place to conduct the Vegas Business stuff.

[DOHC-LSR]

Other than gas, I think things can be kept very simple if we buy nothing at all from Costco. You can buy them on a as needed bases. If you buy things from Costco and divide up cost, you actually create some more possible problems and you don't really save a SHIT load of money anyways. So you say $10 that you are gonna through away at the table.

No where will all the food be stored? Who's room? what if som people eat a LOT of noodles and drink a LOT of water? and other drink nothing but alcohol with cup o noodles???

Also seeing that it is going to be pretty damn cold / cold as fuck when we are there. I don't think we'll need to stockpile water like last time. We'll just each bring a flask. :D

Else we can stop at a Costco together and everyone goes in to buy shit?

my 1/2 cents...

[copymaster003]

VAN INFO:

As of 12/10/2002, 3-vans have been reserved at Dollar Rent-A-Car (866) 434-2226 (Corporate Reservation #: (800) 365-5271) under the UCSF corporate account for:

PICKUP:
Sunday 12/29/2002 4a.m. or later

DROPOFF:
Thursday 01/02/2003 4a.m.

RATES:
Instead of $636/week, the rate is $300/week even. Last time we upgraded to the Grand Caravan Sport for $5.00 extra a day, so that added an additional $35 ($5x7days) with unlimited miles

So the costs last time was:
$300 for the rental
$35.00 for the upgrade, 7-days x $5.00
$18.98 for tax
Total: 353.98

Please note that the above price was for 7-days, this time we will be renting the van for less days. The current estimated costs for the van is:
$60 x 4-days = $240.00
including tax, I was quoted $272.79/per Van

Confirmation No's:
Van #1: Z0842530
Van #2: Z0842569
Van #3: Z1132830


ROOM INFO:

As of 12/10/2002, 3-rooms regular double occupany rooms (appox. 455 sq.ft.) have been reserved at Bally's Las Vegas (702) 739-4111

RATES:
12/29 = $99.00
12/30 = $259.00
12/31 = $259.00
01/01 = $99.00
Total = $716.00 x 3 Rooms = $2148.00

Confirmation No's:
Room#1 Daniel Wong W6HQQ
Room#2 Daniel Wong CF4QQ
Room#3 Raymond Wong ZB4QQ

Please NOTE!!!! that the first night of each room has already been charged to my CREDIT CARD @ $107.91 x 3 = $323.73 (This is $99.00 per room plus tax)


What we are trying to do with ROD:

ROD (Cell# (702) 286-0064) and I have been working together and we are trying to upgrade our 3-rooms into 2 - 1500 sq, ft. SUITES (the one we were in last time). Currently, these SUITES that we want have all been held by the management until 12/10/2002 which is when they will be released. I will be calling ROD back 12/11/2002 as per his instructions again to determine the final outcome.

Obviously, he will want his under-the-table commission. This is another TOPIC that we will need to address at our meeting as to how much commission we want to offer him. He currently wants $200-$300 per an upgrade, per a room. So on that NOTE, the new MEETING DATE has been rescheduled to aMandatory MEETING @ 1PM, The Great Entertainer on Bryant St, SF, SATURDAY, DEC. 21, 2002

PLEASE FEEL FREE TO MAKE A LIST OF TOPICS YOU WANT COVERED AT THE MEETING.

And for people who will not be present. Unless they have voiced their opinion to someone who WILL be attending the meeting to represent them, whatever is decided at the meeting will STAND! I do not want anyone comming up to me, Ray Wong, and/or Stef., and bitching about how we and everyone else did not considered their suggestion for no one else is helping us plan this TRIP. In the event of any/all unresovled issues, Ray W, Myself, and Stef. will take a vote with whatever the 2/3's majority decides as STANDING.

Also, all VAN Reservations and ROOM Reservations are under my CREDIT CARD as no one has offered to help me with this. When time comes to RENT THE VANS and CHECK INTO RROMS, I will not be charging everything on my CREDIT CARD. We will need to distribute these costs amongst other particpants as I DO NOT WANT TO INCUR ALL CHARGES ON MY CARD. I will also need 2 other greater than or equal to 25 yr. old person(s) to rent the other 2 VANS.

[DOHC-LSR]

That was beautiful. And I agree that anyone who does not attend the above said meeting or have their own liason present at said meeting shall follow and abide by all decisions made by those who had attended the annual corporate meeting.

[fourthighs]

I will volunteer in renting all three vans if neccessary. I will be back from my trip snowboarding on the 28th, so I can go pick the van up. You guys have to decide who will bring me there along obviously with three other peps, total 4 peps going to rent the vans...all 25 year olds the better. So me and Danny for sure should go and who ever else looks old to drive off with the thirc van....although I can rent all the three vans I don't know if they will let me...I obviously can not drive three vans at once...so me, Danny, and someone else over 25 might have to go and rent the vans, if I can I will rent all three vans under my credit card. I will try to call Dollar and ask them about that today...check back for updates on that....

[fourthighs]

Ray C. you can be my liason and if I have any questions or suggestions I will be sure to inform you of them. As of right now the only question I have is who is sleeping in what room???? I prefer to sleep in the same room with people I know!!! So if that is possible that would be great! But I will let Ray C. know if I have suggestions or questions....I will not be here Dec. 21, so I can not make it to the meeting that day....oh yeah, I forgot to ask, Ray C. "can you be my liason"???:D

[fourthighs]

As another alternative suggestion, if possible, can we make the meeting for Monday or Tuesday 23 or 24th of Dec.???? Just a try, since I will be here those days!!:confused:

[copymaster003]

Good suggestions Rick, but NO you cannot rent 3-VANS by yourself. I have asked and no such car rental company will let someone rent more than 1-car at a time. Therefore, each VAN must have a valid renter age 25 or greater with a major creditcard with a valid driver licenses. I will be renting one, and you can rent the second VAN.

The third van could be rented by Jeff or Ko on Stef's side for they both are 25 and greater.

[cowboy]

REGARDING VAN

weren't we thinking of departing at 4am? so doesn't that mean the van should already be at someone's house waiting for us and would have been picked up the night before? but then again, we will all vote on departure time.

if all 3 vans are going to be booked for a full week, why not pick it up earlier so we wouldn't need to worry about it. judging by our last road trip, which was scheduled to depart at 5:15 am or so, we didn't leave until 6am. therefore, with 3 times as much people, we should get shit together even more early, especially the scheduling of vans

-ray, the one with a thought and more to come but can't spend time posting them because of finals

[fourthighs]

Since I will not be there to vote on departure time, I just want to let everyone know I will be arriving back in S.F. on the 28th in the AFTERNOON sometime, so I won't be able to pick up the van with anyone until late night around 9:00 pm and beyond, but that is still a lot earlier than 4:00 am. Just FYI to everyone when voting for time on when to pick up the vans.

[copymaster003]

Tight, just wanted to tell everyone that I WAS THE ONE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE 400TH VIEW.

That is all!

[cowboy]

so, what's going on? are we gonna pick up the van earlier or not?

-ray, the one that wants to know

[fourthighs]

Ray W. if you want to drive us to get the van's that's cool with me. Just let me know.

[cowboy]

wow! was i just volunteered by someone else?

-ray, the one that's astonished :eek:

[fourthighs]

That is right! You are volunteered by moi!

[cowboy]

here's something we can do in vegas

instead of the magic routine, we can go to an inprov-comedy act

click me baby (http://www.lasvegas.com/show_event/IMPROV_COMEDY_CLUB__3475_show_detail.HTM)

i think it's a pretty cool idea(r) because we can contribute some of our humor and have a helluvafast style comedy act.

the price looks pretty reasonable. also, it's just a suggestion. there are other acts too. just go to www.lasvegas.com and click shows. then have it search for shows between the dates Dec 30 - Jan 1

-ray, the suggestion giver

[copymaster003]

http://www.clubrubber.net/index.cfm

as per Sandon's suggestion, we can also check this party out on Sun night 12/29/2002 at RAIN, the PALMS Hotel. Check out the PHOTO's from the past parties! All I got to say is DAMN! Hey James, can I borrow your PIMP outfit??? lol

http://www.spundae.com/
Also, for 12/31/02 Dirty Vegas, Sandra Collins & Crystal Method will be at the House of Blues, Mandalay Bay. Hey Ray Wong, isn't Ferry Corstein your favorite DJ? Too bad he's gonna be in Spundae, LA! Don't worry, if we go to the party, you can just wear a disc-man and listen to him all night with us.

[cowboy]

Originally posted by Stef
Hi everyone,

I know that Arthur and Danny will not be attending the Vegas meeting on Saturday @ GE. But for
those of us that will be there, we will be discussing very important issues, which will include--YOUR
WALLET! So if you aren't going for some reason, please make sure you email me with any
concerns you want addressed. If you don't voice out, then you will have no say with what the verdict
is. We all want this to be an awesome trip, meaning no griping or complaints. So let's cooperate and
make it to the meeting.

Also, with all the snacks and alcohol that needs to be bought- it will take place RIGHT AFTER the
meeting. Ray Wong has a Costco card (so does myself) and prefers to buy every necessity right
then and there down the street, so that everyone can be reimbursed; or else, there's no way ppl. will
be willing to pay up AFTER the trip (excuses, lagging or broke). Therefore, we are asking every
single person to bring CASH to this meeting- preferrably all different bills. It would be hard to break
so many 20's. I know this may sound a lot to ask for, but situate yourself as a leader and you would
want fairness and efficiency to be the pertinent components. Our Vegas group is so large, that we
must be organized and time is running out.
So please go to the bank or get some change before the meeting at 1:00pm, Saturday, and be readily
available to contribute vocally and wisely!

Steve- although you are in LA, I hope that whatever way we divide the costs (alcohol and snacks)
will be agreeable to you. I promise it will be the fairest way possible. I wanted to inform you that all
financial business will be taken care of during this meeting. Should you have any extra questions or
areas to cover, please email me as well. Thanks~

This is guaranteed to be a dope trip--let's just get all the strings tied. Thanks guys in advance and I
will see you all later on tonite.~

Please forward this to Jose and Ko. Or call them up to let them know about this email.

Stef

READ THAT, YOU FAGGOTS
that is what she emailed me

-ray, the master quoter

[cowboy]

Originally posted by Fetsey
Hello everybody,
For those who could not attend the meeting or stay till the end, decisions were all solidified by the attendees. Majority voted and here is the finalized recap of the meeting:

ALCOHOL
6 Vodka
8 Hennessy
1 Jack Daniel
1 case Red Bull
1 Lime Juice
1 Triple Sec
1 Sweet N' Sour
2 Cranberry Juice
3 White Pear Juice
6 Coke 2-liters
4 cases H2O

We will be bringing an extra unopened Crown Royal and Remy from previous parties. The drink menu for the hard liquor is shown above (Hennessy,Vodka), while mixed drinks will consist of Raging Bull and Kamikaze.

SNACKS
3 bags of beef jerky
3 boxes of Rice Krispy treats
2 cases Cup O 'Noodles
1 case Korean Noodles
-All other snacks should be bought according to individual preferences.

- Cups were also purchased at Costco.

All snacks, cups and liquor totaled to $533.46. May each person kindly pay to Stefanie $29.00, for she paid for everything up front
(Arthur, Ko, Jose, Steve, and Sandon) Thank you.


VANS
The following will only get the vans, since they are of age 25:
Van A- Danny
Van B- Ricky
Van C- Ko


The following will be picking up people according to closeness, neighborhood and being "on the way".

Van A- Danny W. will pick up
-Danny (himself)
-Stef
-Ray Wong
-Jenny
-James
-Sherman


Van B- Ricky will pick up
-Ricky (himself)
-Tracey-Ray Cheung
-Arthur
-Danny B.
-Jeff


Van C- Ko will pick up
-Ko (himself)
-Andy
-Jose
-Lan
-Sandon
-Ray Chow

These 3 fellas will take care of the gas only going to and from Vegas. We will be reimbursing them after the trip:
Van A- James
Van B- Jeff
Van C- Andy


MEETING POINT--Lan Hong's House, in Chinatown @ 4 am SHARP!!! DEPARTING SF- 4:30 am PROMPTLY!!!

At this point, we will divide all snacks and luggage between the vans and we can rearrange the seating, so that everyone is happy and comfortable. But please keep in mind that we will all have to get to know each other one way or another throughout the 4 days and seating is only 6 per van. (You must be fully eady to leave whenever your driver indicates. If you are one to lag, please watch time closely- even if it means no sleep. You do no want 17 other individuals waiting for just you only. Give yourself enough time and consider driving distance to Chinatown as well)

PACKING
You are allowed only ONE duffel bag and ONE carry-on. We will be rotating sleeping arrangements, so please bring a pillow or sleeping bag. If you decide to bring an inflatable bed- please note the space of other individuals who will be sleeping on the floor too.

LODGING
Danny W. is still waiting on word from the "hookup guy" to upgrade to 2 suites. But we have confirmation of 3
rooms (not suites) at Bally's. Each room has 2 Queen beds. Some good news is that the prices have dropped
for the 30th and 31st. The breakdown:

DEC. 29TH- $99
DEC. 30TH- $199
DEC. 31ST- $199
JAN. 1ST- $99

This is ~$600 multiplied by 3 rooms= ~$1800. We will be getting exact confirmation this week about the rooming.


That is it for now.
Thank you for all those who attended the meeting and shared their inputs to tie the ends.

Have a wonderful Christmas and see everyone early Sunday morning!

[fourthighs]

So what time are we going to pick up the Vans on Saturday? I will be back Friday night, so I can go anytime on Saturday.

[DOHC-LSR]

Originally posted by copymaster003


http://www.spundae.com/
Also, for 12/31/02 Dirty Vegas, Sandra Collins & Crystal Method will be at the House of Blues, Mandalay Bay.


So whats up with this? Who bought tickets? who has not? Is this gonna be a group buy? I don't think the prices are going to go up anymore but $75 is where its at now. But I still wanna get our shit together by today.

~Ray (the one that wants shit together)

[copymaster003]

Originally posted by DOHC-LS-Ray



So whats up with this? Who bought tickets? who has not? Is this gonna be a group buy? I don't think the prices are going to go up anymore but $75 is where its at now. But I still wanna get our shit together by today.

~Ray (the one that wants shit together)

Due to fact that we are unable to purchase a PHYSICAL ticket and will only be able to reserve tickets for WILL CALL at the event, I have decided to cancel the party. (We can take a vote on this) A ticket on Will Call will mean waiting in one line to pick up the tickets from the ticket vendor, in this case, I think TicketMaster if you do it over the phone, and GrooveTickets.com if you do it on-line (Please NOTE: Each vendor has it's own sur-charge for vending tickets) and then waiting in another line to get into the venue.

I propose that we try to have dinner together and then catch the free fireworks show outside and then we can party back up in the rooms. For people who want to gamble and do other things they can. Also. Ray Wong has expressed that he does not want to attending A RAVE like setting and he also has MUSIC CONCERNS, others have expressed concerns about PAYING SO MUCH FOR TICKETS, so others DO NOT WANT TO ATTEND PERIOD. Since we have so many objections, we can do something else in which we will have less objections.

Personally, I wouldn't mind going to see a live PA SET by Dirty Vegas and The Crsytal Method, but that is my opinion.

UPDATES on the ROOMS:

ROD has called me back on 12/25 and he said that the 2-suites are looking good. I will need to confirm with him exactly what is going on, but so far so good.

UPDATES on VANS:

Vans are completely sold out for the 2-weeks starting from 12/20-1/03/03. I was instructed to call back daily to see if there are any early drop offs or cacellations. So far as of 2:28pm 12/26/02, nothing yet.

[DOHC-LSR]

Alrights than... new on van sounds bad... and confusing... thought we had the vans down already? We can always stop by the House of Blues AFTERWARDS if we gots nothing to do... but I think the performances are BEFORE 1:00AM

[DOHC-LSR]

oh oh oh... but Crystal Method is on after 3:30!

[cowboy]

this post was responsible for the 500th view

that is all

-ray, the guy that made the 500th view